At the 2015 SHOT Show, Kel-Tec introduced their new pistol caliber rifle: the SUB-2000 Gen 2.
The original SUB-2000 has been a very popular folding carbine, and one of the company’s better known products. However, based on the feedback provided by thousands of shooters, Kel-Tec decided to enhance the classic gun and release it as the Gen 2.
Let’s take a look at the new gun, and how it differs from the orignal…
Many readers may be familiar with the original SUB-2000. It is a pistol caliber carbine that can fold in half for storage and transportation. The gun is largely polymer, uses a blowback design and is offered in a variety of models that allow for the use of Glock, Beretta, SIG SAUER and Smith & Wesson (59-series) magazines.
SUB-2000 Gen 2 Features
Many of the key features from the original gun carry forward to the Gen 2 rifle. Both guns fold in the middle, and both are available in 9mm and .40 S&W. However, there are a few changes that shooters will be interested in.
accessories – Adding lights, lasers and other accessories is a popular American pastime. The original SUB-2000 did not have any rails or other easy ways to attach things. Part of Kel-Tec’s upgrade to the carbine includes Picatinny rails at the 12 and 6 o’clock positions of the hand guard.
Kel-Tec also added Magpul M-Lok attachment points to the 3 and 9 o’clock positions on the hand guard.
adjustable stock – The new gun has a three-position adjustable buttstock. The stock does not rapidly adjust like an M-4. Essentially, you find the right position and lock it in. Adjustment lengths can add either 0.625″ or 1.25″ to the LOP. It is not adjustable on the fly.
sling attachment points – The new stock includes several new options for adding a sling. There is a wide slit in the stock for the attachment of a web-type sling. In the crook of the buttstock’s L-shape there is a single point attachment. A sling with a mash-type clip will work perfectly here.
new polymer – Kel-Tec is using a new polymer for the rifle stock. The new polymer uses a different blend of materials and has a different feel. I liked the new feel of the stock. Frankly, it feels like it is a higher quality material.
front sight – The front sight has been redesigned and is now made of aluminum. It is also removable, which exposes threads for the attachment of a flash or sound suppressor.
pistol grip – Combined with the new polymer, the redesigned pistol grip feels good in the hand. It is hard to quantify the feel of a grip, but I like the new version a lot.
Specifications
Here are the specs on the new Kel-Tec Gen 2 SUB-2000:
Caliber | 9mm, .40 S&W |
Action | blowback |
Barrel Length | 16.05″ |
Twist Rate | 1:10″ (9mm) or 1:16″ (.40) |
Overall Length | 29.25″ – 30.5″ |
Folded Length | 16″ |
Length of Pull | 13.25″ – 14.5″ |
Weight | 4.25 lbs |
MSRP (at launch) | $500 |
New Magazine Options
The Gen 2 SUB-2000 will have models available that accept a variety of pistol magazines. New for the Gen 2 will be guns that will take Smith & Wesson M&P and Springfield XD magazines. The Kel-Tec rep said the two new magazine options are being introduced due to significant customer demand.
Shipping and Price
Kel-Tec products tend to be in high demand. The company’s guns seem to hit the right balance between price and performance with a dash of coolness mixed in. I expect the new Gen 2 SUB-2000 carbines to be very popular.
Currently, Kel-Tec expects to begin shipping in the third quarter. If past performance indicates future behavior, I would expect the initial production to be low volume that builds as the manufacturing process is perfected.
The expected MSRP is $500. This number is subject to change, but I would not expect it to increase by very much.
What do you think? Do you like the look of the new guns?
Update
At the 2015 NRA show I was able to follow up with Kel-Tec on the Gen2 rifles. There are several things I want to pass along.
First, the guns are still on track for a Fall 2015 release. There are no anticipated delays.
Second, the MSRP is still at $500. I was afraid that in the time between announcement at the SHOT Show and the release there would be a price increase. Thus far, pricing remains the same.
Third, I was told that Kel-Tec is doing everything they can to ramp up production to meet consumer demand. According to the company, several design improvements in the SUB-2000 were made so that production is actually increased. So, for a given amount of time, Kel-Tec will be able to make more Gen 2 rifles than they were the original guns.
Last Update: October 17, 2022
36 replies on “Kel-Tec SUB-2000 Gen2 – New Version of the Popular Rifle”
for a lefty, will the shell eject far enough away from the face? Plus, the little “charging handle” appears to be tilted away from a right handed shooters face……will that thing knock a lefty’s teeth out when it reciprocates?
I ordered my sub 2000 over a year ago and still waiting for it to come in.
kel tecs are vapor ware.
The new stock is straight vertical, and it does not have the curve to settle it into the arm pit. It is slippery. I added a peel & stick foam sheet (black) from Walmart. Not slippery anymore; until something else comes along.
Not like there is any recoil